Aldric Bourgier and Ranieri Niccoli Discuss the Synergy Between Padel Rackets and Super Sports Cars
- this sport is something which is I will say unique the game has a fast pace [Music] strategy we leave for challenge for Rising always with the bar it was obvious for us that there was something super interesting to invent what does it mean to go beyond to go further than expected to raise the bar to the F limits in this podcast series we unleash the gamechanging stories that take Lamborghini beyond the status quo and meet extraordinary people across the world who go beyond convention to forge their own incredible Journeys my name is
- Julia salvi and I'm Tim Bravo together we are your hosts and this is beyond a Lamborghini podcaster [Music] in 2023 we celebrated 60 years of Lamborghini and 2024 marks the 60th anniversary of the production at our legendary Lamborghini manufacturing facility at the heart of santagata bolog which is known and famous for crafting some of the most exhilarating super sports cars on the planet and over these 60 or 61 years now this iconic Factory has occasionally stepped Beyond its Automotive Heritage like for example in
- April of this year where Lamborghini embarked on a unique partnership with babola the esteemed maker of tennis badminton and pedal equipment and together they harnessed their unparalleled expertise to create an exclusive series of pedal records the bl001 pedal racket is a masterpiece of manufacturing skill produced right here at the Lamborghini factory with only 50 exclusive units to be made the record sport of padle is Making Waves around the world combining elements of tennis and squash and emphasizing quick
- reflexes strategic thinking and teamwork paddle originated in Mexico in the' 70s it has always been particularly beloved in Spain and Latin America and today it's one of the fastest growing Sports globally with particular popularity here in Italy drawing in players and fans with it dynamism and thrilling pace and in this episode of Beyond we're honored to have two special guests Ranier nikoli Lamborghini's Chief manufacturing officer and a huge padal afficionado like I know and alri bourier chief Innovation and development officer at
- Baba and I'm sure as well he is very much into these Sports we'll discuss insights on their journeys of expertise the fusion of technology and craftmanship and how both Brands strive to transcend the ordinary alri reri welcome welcome welcome to everyone welcome paddle is a relatively new and pioneering sport but reri you may be our chief manufacturing officer but I understand that you're a keen paddle Enthusiast too how did you first get into paddle and what do you love about it yes yes I I first of all I'm a
- sport lovers and I start to play ble I would say 3 years ago when I think in Italy will start to to to grow this this port in the television first and then will start to to to to to build a lot of puddle clabs in all in all the city also in my city and this was the reason why I started to to try and I I was immediately in love uh this sport is something which is I would say unique it's quite easy to start to play you you can have fun immediately It's relatively easy also to organize you you need only other three let's say colleagues to do
- it and uh but at the end the more you are start to to to play and the more you start to to go to get in then you you can also feel that is a sport quite complex you can have strategical is as any way a team sport even if you are only two against other two and but is's a lot of strategic um thinking is not easy to to make say the point and and also in term of Fitness is quite complete so you can have also a good a good let's say training all the day so that's that's why I love it and I try to to do it at least every week or couple
- of times couple of days in the week I can I can absolutely understand your your passion R for paddle myself I I love the sport but I actually got into those type of sports playing tennis I've played for more than 20 years and that's where I first heard the name babala of course because Baba is used by world champions such as Rafa Nadal Carlos alcara and many many other tennis Superstars has been producing tennis equipment for almost 150 years now I believe but alri maybe you can tell me a little bit more about the company's
- history and how the sport of paddle became a more recent Endeavor in the company's history the Baba company is a French company which is a familyowned company which is 150 years old we will celebrate the 150 years anniversary next year in 2025 and uh the origine of the compan is truly linked to the invention of the tennis strings in fact the funny story was that the first tennis strings were invented by Baba in 1875 just one year after the invention of the tennis rules the game itself so that's that's so the the name Baba and
- the company Baba is deeply connected to the story to the history of tennis and through uh through all those years uh and the the the the family the Baba family is still owning of course the the company and Eric Baba who is our president at the moment is the fifth generation of president of the of the family Baba family um and along those years the the the company has expanded itself through racket Sports product uh rackets strings shoes and um and the when it comes to paddle in fact the the story around padle uh
- for Baba is not new uh it's more than 20 years ago that uh that Baba identified the paddle as the growing sport a very interesting sport in the in the raet sports in industry and in 2001 we we launched our first paddle racket so more than 20 years ago as since then we have launched specific shoes specific rackets and one of the key thing that show is showing that we are still investing a lot in that sport is that one year ago we in we invested in a in our small Factory in Spain which is the earth of the in Europe of the padal sport next to
- next to Barcelona we we invested and launched our what we call Baba paddle studio and we are still investing a lot uh in that and when it comes to the to the to the practice itself it's obviously growing like L and we estimate that in 10 years from now the number of paddle player will be twice the number of tennis player so it's growing everywhere and especially of course in Italy but alri what makes it so popular like what what is it that is so that that grabs you that excites uh so many people more or less I'm fully aligned
- with what R said uh first of all I would say the game itself the game is crazy the game has a fast pace strategic very interesting to play but also very interesting to watch so for us that's a very very interesting uh sport exploding Sports which may have influence on other sports and um it's more than a sport as you said uh for us we consider and we know and that's the way we approached it this is a social convivial uh Sports talking to friends having pleasure and fun with friends even if you are not a super tennis player immediately quite
- immediately you have fun and you it's very that's a fantastic sport it also has a very glamorous style but uh speaking to Raneri speaking of where we are today we're here in the manufacturing facility at Lamborghinis headquarters where the exclusive rackets will be manufactured alongside the dream super sport cars were known for Raneri as Lamborghini's Chief manufacturing officer this is your domain and you're responsible for production Logistics industrial technology and infrastructure here in short e build dream cars how
- does it feel to be the helm on the 60th anniversary of production yes uh it's it's an honor for me I would say I every time I came to the factory every day I'm always super happy to come and to to do my job I think I'm really honored and blessed to be uh in my position uh actually I was thinking almost 30% of of these 60 years are covered by by me in in this position so I I'm also super happy to that I I was here starting from 2008 so it's it's it's a dream it's it's for sure it's an hard job but it's something which every
- day makes me happy and and this is I think was most important things how did you join the Lamborghini group RI actually uh I'm not a car guy I have to confess I start yeah I'm an engineer by the way but I'm not a car guy or at least I didn't I didn't start as a car guy now I am uh I'm an AOS Space Engineering uh so I study more or less uh space and uh rockets and something like that when I was young this was my my first my first Passion then life is strange and so I started after the university I started immediately in in the automotive field
- in a in company the biggest company at that time Italian which was producing cars in in turine so you can imagine the company uh and I spent some years there and then after I moved to from turine to to Bologna in another small company which was doing a different a different object gear boxes for industrial application and in 2008 I had the chance uh to have the possibility to join Lamborghini uh at that time Lamborghini was for sure a let's say growing company but a different size different uh Dimension different product also maybe
- different brand images at that time uh so it was a a challenge and I said yes I think it's I saw the potential at least in term of Industrial Development and then uh I started and I'm still here before I ask you now Ranieri what you think the Lamborghini production stands for like what the key values or characteristics are I would like to ask alri because it's uh Curious um however that Baba having their own uh longstanding expertise and the technological knowhow and Excellence as well of course in the field of Records
- why did you decide to bring the manufacturing and technological expertise of the uh bl001 pedal record to Lamborghini and to to have it created here in santagata the the spirit in in the Baba company is always to push boundaries around performance and Innovation and it all comes to our ways of working we are absolutely convinced that of course we have a know how 150 years there's no question but that the future will not be only built uh on our own and that the future is about collaboration with experts and that's the the big reason
- why we were so happy to have discussions and to start working with Lamborghini because Lamborghini is of course an expert especially in in composite Technologies and then uh for us it was like uh uh obvious that if we are talking to each other we'll create something new and totally different and again it's it fits with our way of working trying to to go outside the company to talk to experts and to see different lights on our product lines and to try to invent something totally new can you tell us about the Genesis of
- this collaboration did you first recall like the first time you spoke to each other and what are the goals and expectations for this partnership from my side I guess uh as I said when I started to play paddle I didn't have even the Rockets the first time so I was I was in the club they gave me one rocket and I start to ask I'm an engineer at the end the material I was doing uh and then I start to realize that the material of the normal paddle racket is similar to the material we are using on our super sport car carb fiber
- leather the paint so I said then there is something which can be uh a link between us and and uh this world of paddle and then I start to inside the company to push for having a collaboration and to try to understand if we can really since we are Mastery in our uh let's say fill this kind of material as alri said we are doing for example the the monus so the chassi of the RTO is done in carbon fiber in Sant bolog we are doing all the interior or our super sport car in leather inside our company so we have this kind of
- expertise we are painting with hundreds of color our our car so I said let's try to find a possible partner but since Lamborghini we think we are in the one of the best position we need to have one of the best or the best producer of p r and then start alri I guess yes and and in fact uh what's interesting in the story in between us is that uh I would say that's not only a question of technological things that's also a question of human relationship because I can tell you that the first time I came into the the
- company and then I remember having some discussion with you H uh we already felt like we are similar I mean the way we talk the way we are passionate about what we are doing it's somehow similar and for me of course the technology and is important the expertise important but we try to always in everything we do we try to find the the what we call the Family Spirit or at least the the Feit in between the persons and it was very interesting and um and I would add something which is uh when I came in to be honest I I I had no clue on how the
- the the the car and especially the the cars frames were built but in few seconds you discover exactly what you said r that the the Technologies the materials the process are so similar that it was obvious for us that there was something super interesting to invent and I think it's it's more than a normal I would say partnership because we have done also things with in other field with other but this we are producing so it's really a a collaboration which is beyond the normal I would say uh partnership you can have
- it's is really a deep collaboration because we spend a lot of time together our technician with of course the help of the people of Baba because we are car manufacturer we are not let's say we didn't have any expertise on on paddle but we were together working together to really uh let's say obtain this kind of uh results for such a padle Enthusiast like yourself uh r I'm sure this is more than just a normal collaboration is it also a huge responsibility that someone from outside your normal field of expertise has placed this uh this uh
- challenge this project in your hands well yes it's it's a it's a I would say it's for sure it's it's the fact that I'm was I'm a padle enthusias I was pushing a lot uh to get this kind of project done and also try to to push my people uh to find a way to do this it's clear that we have a process which are done for automotive which are for sure flexible but in a in a certain extent only to do cars and to stretch this kind of processes to produce from a plant which is doing cars P rocket is not really easy in term of of same
- technology in term of competence in term of mindset but I think was a challenge for us what alri said is is absolutely true we are also passionate we live for challenge uh for Rising always the bar and this project was I think the right one for me to show that we can uh build also different things not only super sport car so you both learned from each other but you're both experts in technological innovations in your respective Fields what are you most excited about in the current world of innovation in 2024
- for me what I'm excited about is to see how fast everything is going around us to invent new IDs and more than inventing creating and and delivering new idas the speed of the Technologies and the speed of of new IDs is totally crazy and then uh when it comes to Technologies and especially U composite Technologies uh you see some 3D printers everywhere you see some super interesting Technologies everywhere and for us uh that's what's exciting knowing that one of the key topic maybe we'll talk about that later but is also around
- the way that this um carbon composite Technologies are going the path of sustainability and uh that's a very very impressive let's say world that the moment around that for me see I can agree in term of U speed of Innovation and changing it's really a crazy period in this moment for for what concerning automotive and for what concerning production then which is my field I would say that the automotive world is in the in the middle of revolution in term of contents in term of uh uh changeing of architecture of
- our car uh from the the the power Trin which is coming becoming hybrid and in the future also Electric in term of uh software on on the car in term of uh complexity I would say and this complexity is of course for us a big challenge because uh we have to produce more and more complex car I would say intelligent car and then we need to do also intelligent process and the possibility to to have a connection between the production process and the car which is produced and to have a I will say a dialogue and and a sort of
- Link between the two things it's something which will change probably also the way of producing cars and this is something which uh is we are at the beginning is involving also the artificial intelligence for sure it's involving um the software is involved in the process but and this is something which will stay forever unique in Lamborghini it's always then involving the people uh our workers which has to be the protagonist of our production process because this is our way of doing the the cars at the end andri just mentioned a very uh
- important and interesting topic sustainability Ranieri it does not come uh like automatically to think about sustainability when you think about super sports cars but uh I know that especially for you it's been a big project not uh just uh since yesterday or since it became popular let's say or trendy it's been uh within your books for a long time can you can you explain a little bit about the sustainability strategy yeah I can tell you that as you said team we started to to to work and to really uh be involved on the
- sustainability uh things uh starting from 20089 when I I was coming to to to to Lamborghini and so much before these topics are so hyped now and so popular so it's really something which We believe We Believe that we are born in Santa bolog we are born in the motor Valley so in the M Romana in Italy and we need to really preserve all the the environmental where we are producing and this is a a duty this is something which we need to do it it's something which is we feel inside our our really our heart uh we started with a lot of project
- which I don't want to mention everything but for example we are certified carbon neutral CO2 neutral starting from 2015 so really a lot of time we have several project three Generation Plant District eating so we are receiving for example hot water from another plant outside santagata um we have a park Lamborghini Park seven hectars of of Park which we are uh giving also in term of the let's say availability to the community we are doing also activity there sport we have bees we are doing Hy I know that you
- know him and uh but why we are doing this for example because the bees are one of the most sensible I would say uh kpi in term of pollution they are I will say 500 met from the factory so they are in the in the they can really uh show us in case we have some problem we are monitoring them we are measuring all the all the parameters so we can also see if there is any any issue or not so we are doing a lot of things uh just uh to finish building which are which are with the energy um efficiency and and something which is is not is a path it's
- not we are not at the end we have to do a lot of things we have a lot of project more but something which started really long time ago and we are really believing that we need to preserve the area where we are working alri would you like to share with us your your your point of view about about sustainability and its importance we made the decision two years ago to include sustainability as one of the five pillar of the company um we have a lot of initiatives on our product so we are trying to to use natural fibers we are using Flex
- instead of carbon flx instead of instead of glass fibers and so on so we have all a lot of initiatives on our product on our packaging um I would say that uh at the moment uh we are working super hard to deliver the the the the the big strategy uh around the company on what when it comes to sustainability uh we are not communicating at the moment too much on it because we are preparing it because one of our main target is to be true to our players true to our consumers and we want to make sure that we tell the truth
- which is not always so simple because as you can imagine uh we are of a bigger cake an ecosystem where we are working with players we are working with clubs we are working with um partners for production and one of our key thing is to make sure that we animate the full ecosystem around us and that it makes sense and that this this is true that's what we're are working on which is not preventing us again on working on the future of our product eco eco eco-friendly product circular economy things are in the art
- of our Innovation uh road map alri what you say is very true I think authenticity is uh key when it comes to sustainability you don't want to do any green washing this is the same here at Lamborghini this doesn't help anyone uh and it will always uh backfire absolutely no option but speaking about authenticity Ranieri um what makes Lamborghini so authentic Beyond sustainability what is Lamborghini all about what do people experience when they come and visit you and your team here in the production Halls of santagata bolog yeah it's a good
- question it's it's not easy to to explain would much be better if someone can can come and as as we are uh hosting and we are open to factory visit we have a lot of people which are coming and uh but if I can say something first of all um starting from something we are celebrating these days we we are celebrating not only the 60th anniversary of our production in santaka but also the 50 Anniversary of the Countach production we are doing the cars the actual the RTO the tario we presented some days ago in the same
- building uh which was used to produce the kouch and all the super sport car and I think that this kind of spirit is still present inside our Factory when you're coming our Factory I think first of all as a visual impact you don't think it's a factory there is a lot of uh cleanness there a lot of order uh no noise it's something which we want to have it because to produce such a perfect car you need to have a perfect production process and when is everything uh order CLE and clean then you can really uh don't make
- mistakes and everything can flow in a in in the best way possible uh another point is it's it's about the people I said before uh our production process is quite complicated we have a lot of complex and technological uh process when we are discussing about carbon fiber or painting which allow us to do this car in this kind of different colors and this kind of uh carbon fiber monoco but the center of our production what I'm really uh proud is the skillness and the and the competence of our workers our production
- process at the end is manual there is a lot of Craftman shift and this is something which is uh I would say unique it's not so common in the automotive World in our production is something which we must have to be flexible every car we are producing is different one to the other absolutely different means that there is contents which are unique for the customer that order this car means that in term of complexity we are really uh at the maximum level of complexity and to steer this complexity in the best way
- possible uh for sure we need to have system and we have software which are helping the people but the core is to have people which are motivated which are skilled which are trained and this is something which I would say is is is the is the the the key things I you can see in can feel and you can experience when you are coming in Lamborghini all the people that are visiting us they tell me that you they see people which are motivated really Keen to do the things and S which is make me proud because it's we invest a
- lot on this I think is one of the value added we can have on on our on our production process and what about you alri Raneri just talked with us about his leadership uh a point of view which are the principle that you alri follow to ensure your team remains motivated in what it does I would just jump on the the comment on the the way we use the the craftmanship and the power of the workers for us that's very important um for composite production we are used to play with Technologies and craftmanship every every composite production is
- doing that and for us um more than composite production and raet production that's also a principle uh that we are using in our own Factory where we are producing our own strings for racket where we need to listen we need to talk we need to involve all the workers in the way in what we do and not doing that is just impossible in fact and more than possible or impossible that that what delivers the value of the product that we are delivering and um for paddle we we started uh and we launched our own small Factory in Spain two years ago and
- by the way we we hosted some Lamborghini guys with pleasure talking about the way we are producing those racket in Spain and so on and we had we had a lot of fun and then uh that's exactly what we're trying to apply make sure that the workers into our Factory we are talking to them we are listening to them and we are building co-building the future Racket and again that's also valid for own production or strings so for me this point is very important and I'm I'm fully align and by the way I was super impressed by visiting the the factory in
- Santa Gata of course uh but um we took a lot of learning around that but it was also in our DNA to make sure that our workers our guys have the opportunity to talk to everyone and make sure that we are all align in production so craftmanship very important and then when it comes to your maybe your second question around the R&D and how to motivate Al I would say that my experience is showing that um uh that's a team sport uh you cannot decide on your own to do something without not too much talking to the guys what matters in
- terms of pleasure of working because we are talking about that we are passionate people and we want to have pleasure working because pleasure is delivering performance uh then that's also a question about being s being demanding on what we expect but being super supportive and that's what I'm trying to balance let's say demanding and supportive to to the guys and there there's also a question of value on the way we behave and there's something that we are trying to to to push inside the company which is we take it serious I
- mean our work is serious but we don't consider ourselves as serious guys and and we we we want to make sure that the relationship in between us are fun enough respective demanding yes but the the question around the value for me is very important in the team well it sounds like many many similarities between Baba and Lamborghini not just uh in the production um Excellence but also in the in the way in the attitude no and the in the way that we um engage with with each other but in this exchange um rier and alri that you have had with your teams
- uh what would you say uh is the learning or what can the automotive industry learn from the sports equipment industry and vice versa a lot I will say a lot first of all I think that uh for us it's always a chance uh to when we are working or when we see another production process uh to learn something because we we we don't think we are at the peak of the of of anything uh we have to learn from the others in general with Baba we uh really experienc their competence for us was a completely new uh production process as
- I said at the beginning so the material maybe was similar I would say there was some similarities but the the the let's say the the object at the end and the performance of a pad rackets was for us maybe at the beginning a bit underestimated we think it was a more a simple object and then when we were discussing with them seeing all the test they were doing all the specification all the details which are important they we said ah wow then it's not really a simple object it's really complicated and then for us was pushing the
- boundaries because it's a process as I said designed to do cars which is of course complicated but they have their process they parameters and to change completely in the same in the same Factory so we are not doing this in a different area so with the same people in the same Factory to do from a monoco to a p racket it's it's it's it's a lot of flexibility and as I said we learn a lot about how complex and how a lot of how many how many uh let's say details you need to to to know uh to do a a paddle rocket is
- really something which for us was quite a unknown before do you both have a favorite or memorable moments from your careers yes a lots I will say um pick one of it just one no okay uh there is more than one and but for sure I will I will try to do except collaborating with paba this is the first one this except this which is the top uh but for us you know when we are doing a new car when there is the what we call the startup production of a new car is always something unique because it's it's it's like I was say your baby that is is born
- and behind you know there is all the the problems all the effort all the months and months and months of work so for me one of the best moment without choosing the the model because I saw I had the fortune to to see a lot of models new from the Aventador to the uran Urus now re andario is this moment when you have the startup production of new car which is it's something which is finished from one side but starting which is also starting from the other side because then is something which is is is then lasting for for years so it's a moment
- in which really uh is the end of a phase and the beginning of a new one so I would say this is for me something which I really proud I remember always with the with the with the happiness and proudness and what about you alri yeah I have the same kind of memories because for for me all all my best exp ience in I I'm I'm working in the sports industry since uh more than 25 years and then um my best memories are always like uh launching a new project launching the prototypes and seeing that your IDs are existing in the prototypes and that the
- customers or the players are playing with it have a lot of fun with it and have the exactly the comments that we are expecting let's say in terms of performance and so on so it all it it has always my best memories has always been around um teamwork delivering something totally new which is validated by by the outside world so that's a kind of birth of project of product uh where it's it's always a great pleasure talking about products because we've been talking about the collaboration about passion about leadership about sustainability let's
- talk about the product one second we've mentioned it many times the B L 001 alri what does it stand for what makes it so special uh we only know the name limited to 50 units is being produced in santagata what makes it so special what makes it so special is that we used the the Technologies and the process of the Lamborghini way of producing super sports car frames and we transferred it to a padle racket and uh that's special and it I would say using those process and those materials and those methods enables us to go in a different
- direction compared to what we are used to do uh and we reach some characteristics which are totally new for our padle Racket and especially there's one characteristic which is interesting for us which is showing the way in the future is about power delivery how how strong such a racket and such materials are delivering power to the bow and uh this was thought that we also add initially but using the process and the collaboration with Lamborghini made it possible to reach those values and for us it's obvious that the bl01 is a very very special
- racket of course but for us using those technology and and sharing those experience with Lamborghini people uh is showing the way for the future racket that we want to build so very special I'll have to borrow the Prototype from you because rier challenged me to a to a match just after the just before the recording I'll I'll steal it from you I'll give it back I'll give it back I I'll just borrow it but this way maybe I have a chance against let's see let's see I have a bubble out but then let's see let's see then let's see so now it
- comes to me like really natural to ask what's next for this partnership we can do some spoilers is there something we can actually tell the people listening about this collaboration what what's next after the bl001 and this 50 pieces uh after 001 there's many numbers EXA exactly so we in fact we already started working together on uh two additional rackets uh which are using the the learnings from the bl01 and uh we are at the moment prototyping uh the the future bl02 and bl03 on which we are working in Spain into our Baba paddle Studio which
- is a place where we are experiencing new IDs and so on and the future for us is to be able to have more quantities than 50 produced next year uh using those learnings and those materials and those way of seeing the paddle racket in the future into our small Factory in Spain so that's what we are working on at the moment I don't want to to say more than that at the moment but we know that this collaboration uh of course we we are super fan of it and we want to make the best of it and again take take time with
- Lamborghini guys is is always a big pleasure in terms of human relationship so yeah we will use it what what does the future hold for Lamborghini rier even if you won't build any more pedal records after the this first project what will let see let's see oh let's see let's see let's see let's see no the future for for us it's it's a it's a it's as I said it's a a it's a compx next future but exciting on the same side in term of uh for sure in term of um production uh we need to to cope as I said before with the products which are
- becoming more complex and this is something which is uh which will be uh for sure a challenge for our production process I guess as I said that and we are working on this that the as I said the beginning the artificial intelligence will play a major role to help us not to substitute the the the skill our work as I said the beginning it's it's it's the craftmanship will stay forever but to help us to really produce this kind of complex car always different one to the other but having the maximum quality and the maximum
- let's say attention to the details so I see this as a trend which we need to use more and more the artificial intelligence and of course also um all the software uh which are which is which is which is behind so it's something which is um exciting uh because the the products will become complex as I said uh we are working on this we are preparing uh ourself to uh now to produce the tario and the future to to go also as we said uh in in in in the Electrical uh model and this is uh what we are doing now in in our production process and on the
- production side Beyond cars since the company has grown so much more people have joined Lamborghini U even I learned we'll be building buildings more buildings and more parking spots so not just cars absolutely I know that this question is no it'sa it's quite I would say yes this is something which is I was the fact that we are growing and we grew a lot it's fantastic because uh I can tell you that uh 10 years ago when I came also no much more when I came the production we were doing one year now we we have done
- in one month last month in July we have done a production of car which the beginning we were doing one year so it's really a fantastic story uh fantastic grow uh a lot of success unfortunately there's some side let's say uh area and and the we need to really uh uh to complete uh the the the factory and the headquarter in the best way possible we are working on this and it's another challenge to do this while we are uh producing always with the maximum speed maranti which is also super uh interesting and we are working on this
- team don't worry so with with this promise from reri both thank you very much for your time and for being here at this podcast thank thank you so much I'm looking forward to seeing what the future holds not just for the collaboration but also for Lamborghini and for Baba separately I think huge success lies in front of us thank you very much alri reri thank you thank you thank you thank you for joining us for this month's episode new episodes will continue to land monthly on Spotify Apple podcasts YouTube and
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